One more n00b

Hello everyone,

I stumbled onto this site somehow a few weeks ago and read through the entire site over two or three days. (damn my night owlish tenancies interfering with my sleep! ;p) Two days later I picked up "Getting Things Done" from my local library, picked up a stack of index cards and have been slowly figuring out what works best for me.

I've always liked the idea and looks of fancy planners with multiple tabs, pockets, doohickeys, and whizzbangs, but never used any of them for more than a month. I've collected dozens of pretty, shiny notebooks that have maybe three entries in them and are on a shelf collecting dust .

I'm hoping that this time this time will be different.

If not this version, ( a hand drawn version of a "pierced" (single 1/2 inch binder ring) Hipster) than some other; it's not like I'm going to run out of ideas with all of the creative input here :)

Talk to you all soon,


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I was perusing the flickr group for index cards... take a gander if you please: LINK ...

You might get some ideas :o)

I was quite taken by this method: LINK I would consider this one but circa caught my fancy :o)

my artwork

Re: Welcome

Thanks Sara!

I'm slowly working my way through the entire Flickr set of index cards, but the second link was really useful. My main "problems" at the moment are a lack of a personal printer (there's one at the College computer lab, but they don't do card stock), I'm broke (collage student budget, or lack there of) and I'm left-handed with horrible, large, handwriting (I'm working on the writing thing.)

Get a Newton!

"I'm left-handed with horrible, large, handwriting (I'm working on the writing thing.)"

Seriously! I'm a leftie, too, and my handwriting was so bad that I, myself, can't read the vast majority of my college notes! I got a Newton some years after that, and forced myself to make it recognize my handwriting. After months and months of that, I noticed that my real handwriting improved in the following ways:
1. I learned to print again--much better than cursive, IMO for us lefties. ;-)
2. My letter sizes became more consistent.
3. My writing actually got smaller.
4. I actually was finishing letter shapes, instead of letting them "trail off", like I used to do.

Sadly, it's been a while since I used my Newton on a daily basis, and between writing sloppily and using a Palm and it's lame Grafitti, I've noticed my handwriting devolving in the past year. I suspect also, that it has something to do with my advancing age (42 this year) but that's just a cop-out, maybe. ;-)

But even more seriously, I feel your pain. My handwriting has always been my bane and my shame.


Re: Newton


Where can I find a Newton? I haven't heard of them before this site.

I figure, if I work on improving my handwriting, I can use fancier pens as a reward system :)


Newton, as in the Apple Newton MessagePad. They were the first device that coined the expression PDA, from which stems the currently-popular hPDA. I believe it was Scully who coined the term "Personal Digital Assistant." The Newton was the first to use the term, but other machines, (Psion among them) existed before the Newton. What made the Newton unique was that people could make fun of it for its abysmal handwriting recognition! ;-) Seriously, it was the first (and practically still the only) device that relied exclusively on recognizing your handwriting, and converting it to electronic text. And once the kinks got worked out, it became quite good at recognizing both cursive and printed handwriting. The first models came out in 1993, and I bought my first in '94 or '95, right before the version 2 operating system came out, so I've used both the older, (panned) HWR and the newer, but consider both usable both with training the recognizer (yes, it can learn your handwriting!) and by training myself. I used various models right up until Thanksgiving 2005, when I crushed my last one in the door of my car. :-( I have since had it repaired, but have reverted to a combination Palm PDA/paper-based system.

Unfortunately, Newtons do not "sync" well with modern hardware nor software, so a Newton would have to be treated just like a paper-based planner--a standalone device. However, in its day, I would travel around the US for months at a stretch with nothing but my Newton. I used it for email (no web, sorry), writing letters and other documents, contact management, and my daily diary/planner. But those days are long-since gone--not that you can't still buy or use one, but I don't recommend them--unless you seriously want to try one for improving your handwriting. ;-) Just remember that it's an investment of both time and money--commodities both rare for your average college student. ;-)
But where are you located generally? US or Europe?


Jon, Thanks for the info,


Thanks for the info, sorry to hear about your Newton's unfortunate meeting with a car door.

If I was going to go digital I'd need something that could sync.

I'm in the US.


Newtons sync .... demonstrated with this bucket of water :)

Seriously, they did sync, but they are so far out of date now, you'd need a very old Mac to talk to it.

But they were the NUmber One Geek Toy of their day.
"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)


"Seriously, they did sync, but they are so far out of date now, you'd need a very old Mac to talk to it."

Ironically, it seems that modern Windows boxes do better than new Macs! They typically still have serial ports, and somehow, some of the older software runs better than the Classic apps on Macs. Oh well--progress. ;-)

Oh, and some people have gotten Newts syncing fine on OS X via NewtSync, but I never could. I just treated mine as a stand-alone.