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I've been reading these forums for almost two months now, and finally decided to give in and register. I think it was the post about people preferring to post or comment three times before registering -- I've already commented anonymously twice and I just couldn't stand to follow the trend.

I've gleaned tons of good advice from all of you, and thanks to you I'm now addicted to Levenger paper, Circa bindings, Moleskines, and 3x5 cards. My Space Pen just came in the mail. You should just put together an official "new membership kit".

I started reading when I got a new job -- and of course, new jobs call for new planners! I don't think there's a planner made that could efficiently handle the amount of both transient and reference information I have to process, though; without your unknowing help, I'd have been drowned in data or eaten whole by some project weeks ago. Now, my new boss thinks I'm brilliantly organized just because I have a "Machine Profiles" section in my desk planner. So thank you, all of you, most sincerely, for everything from the templates to the extensive analyses of various planner cases and advice on pens. I hope I can pay it all back with a contribution of my own -- maybe I'll have the time now. :)

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welcome!

Welcome! When did you start your new job? I started mine on January 2nd this year and quickly found that trying to keep all my stuff (personal and work) in my Franklin planner just would not fit. I was trying all kinds of crazy ideas when I saw the review of the Circa system and I've been hooked ever since!

I now have 4 Circa notebooks at home, 2 Rollabind notebooks at work, and a monster Circa notebook in a Classic size DayRunning zipper binder I bought off ebay as my main planner.

Everything starts out in the planner and then gets moved to the appropriate notebook. Something that I don't think is easily achieved with traditional planners unless you use a letter size brick of a planner!

-Kenny

Internal Answer: a lifetime

Internal Answer: a lifetime ago.

Answer for Other People: March.

I now have a Levenger IPB with a Moleskine Cahier on one side, my 3x5 inbox in the card holder behind it, and my hPDA Stack behind the credit cards on the other side. (I tried Circa for the hPDA, but felt that two rings didn't provide enough lateral stability to make up for the added bulk). I have a desktop Circa planner, mostly made up of my @work next actions list, some phone numbers, and a huge mountain of current reference material. Yesterday I got in new Circa rings and made up an ad-hoc project book for my biggest new project; once again, my boss is fooled into thinking I'm organized because I could just "split" my planner that way.

Sounds like I'm headed for the conceptual cousin of your own system.

So true!

You should just put together an official "new membership kit".

LOL! this is so true! I am now the proud owner of a ream of Levenger paper, a "smurfer", over a thousand rings--bought my wife a moleskin, and have not one, but a few 3x5 and A7 hipsters, including a "ductster" wallet to hold my 3x5s. Oh, and my desktop "hipster" which is really nifty.

In fact, so far, the only area I've resisted is in the pen area. However, that space pen looks sooo cooool. ;-) And I would like to try fountain pens, but am a bit fearful of them... However, that wonderful Levenger paper proclaims how great it is for fountain pens. ;-)

So, anybody want to put together a kit?

-Jon

Sorta defeats the purpose...

of the site.

All the tools, ideas and templates are here for you to Do It Yourself

'Nuff said ?
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Do not fear the fountian pen!

With the right paper, they are an absolute dream to write with. You will be shocked at how "gummy" writing with a ballpoint will seem after you try a fountain pen.

Most people seem to be put off by the idea of dealing with ink, or the overall cost of the things. Consider that you can buy pricey-but-convenient "cartridges" (disposable ink-filled plastic thingy that snaps into the pen) and avoid bottled inks altogether. But don't throw out those empty cartridges, because then you'll get hooked and will start ogling the rich diversity of colors available, and the budget-minded have been known to refill the carts (before they break down and buy a fillable pen or a "converter".) As for cost, there is a "pen for every budget." Collectors will pay big $$$ for certain vintage or modern pens, but there are workable solutions from under $5 and up.

On the under $5 side, Pilot makes a disposable FP called the Varsity which is a very inexpensive way to get hooked (hey kids, the first one is free.) And it's cheap enough that if you lose/abuse it, it's no great loss. I "accidentally" let my school-age son use one for notes, and now he's hooked -- "This is a really cool pen, it's so easy."

No all papers are fountain-pen friendly, but if you're already hooked by Levenger, then you have been bitten by the Quality Bug. In fact, I saw one of their True-Writer FPs on their outlet auction page (and was tempted!)

There are people who have devoted a lot of time (too much time?) to deciding on the perfect pen/ink/paper combination, and most of them are in group therapy over at the Fountain Pen Network. (And as the commercials say, I'm not only a promoter, I'm also a member.)

The pen is messier than the biro

With the right paper, they are an absolute dream to write with. You will be shocked at how "gummy" writing with a ballpoint will seem after you try a fountain pen.

It's been many decades since I last used a fountain pen. Being ya eld I was forced to use a fountain pen at my grammar school. We were not allowed to use ball point pens ... ever. In the interim I've come to appreciate ball-points for the very reason that they are gummy; their ink doesn't flow smoothly so I have to slow down and to control the pen. Being a dyslexic with poor fine motor control my hand-writing has always been poor. I think I'm the source of the proverbial spider.

I would love to have good penmanship. If only I could write ike like Edward Johnston ... but being realistic that ain't ever going to happen. Bizarrely with a ball-point my scribble becomes readable! So for the moment I'm ticking with the gummy inks though I might be converted in future.

Understandable

Certainly there are special cases! When I have to use a ballpoint, I carry around a Zebra fine point (cheap, and steel barrel) or a Space Pen. I've found both to be smooth writers, much better than your average el-cheapo plastic ballpoint.

My handwriting is a lost cause, though I tend to slow down with a fountain pen a bit as I'm focusing on keeping both tines of the nib on paper. I love the smoothness, though -- my hand does not tire when using a FP like it does with a ballpoint.

should i feel ashamed? nah

i adore bic pens : o

I have quite an extensive collection of ballpoints... in fact I just picked up a pack of Rose Art ballpoint pens that are so smooooooooth. And they look suprisingly nice.

i just love pens... :sigh:

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Cracker Barrel

A few months ago much to my husband's surprise I asked the clerk at Cracker Barrel if she needed THAT pen that she gave me to sign our check. She didn't think so so I asked if I could TRADE pens with her because I just loved the kind she had. It is a fatter one with the nice rubber grip and VERY slick ink flow. I was tickled pink with my trade. I have never found one in a regular office supply place but they are given out by businesses sometimes. I carefully keep my eye on these particular pens so they don't walk off. Not much makes me happier than a nice pen.

I love these too!

I'm glad to find someone else who knows these promotional pens! I have several, one is my main pen at the computer desk at home. That one is from our phone company, but I've seen the same pen from other small businesses including a rural tavern. All wrote very nicely!

Fear Not the Fountain Pen, but...

Beware of the Inky Fingers !!! >:D

A minor inconvenience we Fountain-Penners accept as a badge of distinction. ;)
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Why did you have to post

Why did you have to post that (ink) link?

Now I need a dip-pen, a first smidgeon of artistic talent, and a second new job to support my habit.

As for the second link... Forums devoted to pens? *sigh* See you there.

Ahhh, pens!

The Space Pen isn't bad. I like my Minna mini-pens better as ball-points -- they have a slightly finer .5mm line with smoother ink -- and my UniBall Signo 0.18mm pens rule uber alles because my handwriting is so tiny anything else makes it look blotchy and cramped. But as far as something to tuck into my planner-wallet and forget until the day I forget to put a Minna in my watch pocket and a Signo in my back pocket (or the day I need to write upside-down on buttered paper!) the Space Pen is an acceptably nonblotchy, nonbleeding, nonsmearing ball-point.

I'm just not a huge fan of ball-points.

This assessment may be a bit unfair; I'm exceedingly picky about pens. I'll use what's to hand, but I don't have to like it -- and in most cases, I usually don't. Ball points are faded-looking, sticky, and occasionally leave big lumps that blot out whole letters in my case. Roller balls are smoother but feather horrifically on unpowdered or coarse-fibered paper. Fiber-tips are nicest, but have an even worse problem with feathering and bleed-through of even good paper. Gel ink is in many ways nicest -- richer-looking inks with less feathering, less bleed (even if it's so dark it just plain shows through), fewer lumps like fiber-tip but the sturdiness of roller-ball or ball-point. One weird exception is the G2; I just don't get the foofarah about it. It's sticky /and/ smeary, and it's the boldest .5mm tip I've ever written with.

Which brings me to your next point: fountain pens. I think it's time. I seek the One True Pen, and I shall not rest until I've acquired it. If I can find one with a nib about as wide as an upholsterer's needle, I'll be in heaven.

plz do tell

where did you find Signo 0.18mm pens? ::drooling::

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Google !!!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Signo+0.18mm

You should not be surprised at the first link. They have been mentioned here many times.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

:(

I was hoping for a non-internet source. :)

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Sorry, ...

but I have found Internet Merchants to be far less disappointing than Retail Merchants. You walk in and ask if they sell these kind of pens.

They say, "No, we do not carry those."
"Would you special order them for me ?"
"No, we don't do that."

I'd rather pay a few buck in shipping than go through that garbage and waste time and fuel running from store to store.

You will note that none of the common retailers, like Staples or Office Depot, appear in that Google list.

I apologize for the spontaneous rant, but retail merchants is one of those hair-triggers for me.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

phone calls...

If you're looking for a store that carries these, you could call your local office supply stores. That would save you some driving around.

-Kenny

The suggestion is appreciated....

but in my experience, the time is still wasted, just not the gas.

Same conversation over the phone as in person, with huge time gaps spent "On Hold".

You will have to do better than that to sway my opinion, but I thank you for the effort.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

:(

25.00 for the set plus s&h ... I can't squeeze that outta my budget :*( I'll just have to imagine my pilot v7 is a v5 and deal with it ;P heheh

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Google is still your friend...

LINK
Black pen only, $3 each, free standard shipping.

Or Here's an eBay
3 pens for $7.30 shipped.

Give it a try and then the $25 will not seem so bad.

That's how it was with me and Circa/Rollabind. Once I tried it, I then felt the price was reasonable.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

google is my budgets enemy

I really don't NEED any more pens ... so I'm going to pretend I didn't see your last post ;P

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Buy meeeee !

Don't make that poor pen whine like that. You KNOW you want it.

>:D
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

OOooo

ygor, that Jpens site is a dangerous thing!
But like Sara, I don't need any more pens . . . .I will resist . . .I will resist . . .I will resist . . .

Hear them whine... "Buy me ! Buy me !"

>:D
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

you and me

we should start a support group... our motto will be ...

its write to say no! ;P

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"Stop me before I shop again !!"

>:D
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

another verse of "we can't afford any more free pens"

For the last few weeks, whenever the subject of pens comes up or an office supply catalog comes in the mail, my wife remarks that "We can't afford any more free pens." Since actually thinking about that remark, I've been tossing any pens that no longer work and ones I no longer like and replacing them with better pens.

My 20 pack of PaperMate I bought for $4 is in the box of stuff to donate and in there place is a 4 pack of Pilot G2's.

Before anyone asks, no I haven't tried fountain pens yet.

-Kenny

Pilot Petit-1's are only $4.50 at jPens.com

>:D LINK
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

I knew it!

I knew posting that last sentence on this forum would be a mistake!

-Kenny

The sad thing is ....

I should get a percentage for all the stuff I have helped to sell.
:P
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

You need the services of a "nibmeister"

There are experts in the care and feeding of FPs, and you can get such experts to re-grind a nib to your needs. One thing to consider (and something I never really thought about) is that the fine-ness of your line with a fountain pen is a factor of the nib, the ink, and the paper. I have three pens that all claim to be "fine", but only one of them generates what I would call a truly fine line. I had a three-pack of the Varsity pens I wrote about, and noticed that of the three, the blue ink was the finest, followed by the black and then the purple (which writes like a firehose for me.)

The joy is in the search, of course, but there are certainly options out there.

See you on FPN. :-)

Great info

Thanks to all for the pen info. As I said before, I really LOVE a great pen. I think a great pen may even release endorphins within us. Possible?