Make your own artistic Rolla/Circa/Mynd/Atoma discs?

Is there such a thing as eXtreme DIY planning? If so, would making your own Rolla/Circa/Mynd/Atoma discs be part of the experience?

I've been wondering if one could somehow make a mold from a disc, and use that mold with polymer clay to make artistic discs. You could spray the finished disks with polyurethane (or something) to make them smooth; I think unfinished clay would be too grippy for smooth page-turning.

Just think...

..."peppermint" discs for your winter holiday notebook,

...discs with embedded flowers for your garden journal,

...rainbow discs for your psychedelic dream log,

...and on and on and on.

Does anyone know how to make a mold? Oh wait...you're going to tell me "google is your friend," aren't you? :-)

Added: I already have clear photopolymer at home. I use this to make my own clear rubber stamps. I'm looking for a mold that would be rigid so that the clay could be pressed into it.

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Cookie extruder

Hi.

Not sure on the mold materials--you might have to go with plaster or epoxy to make a mold. Your mold would have to be in two parts to avoid mold-lock.

But I was thinking that if you had a cookie press, you might be able to find a half-moon shape of the right size to make the rims without any centers. Then all you'd need would be a circle-cutter of the right size to attach your rims to.

Wouldn't help with flowers or peppermint, probably..

I am thinking your finished product might get a little wavy--and how much does poly-clay shrink when it's cooked?

shris

"extruder" is fun to type!

I think different types of polymer clay have different characteristics when they are baked. I'm not sure about shrinkage, but I do think you can get clay that is rigid and won't warp after curing.

Maybe I can make a mold out of more polymer clay? :-) You're right - it would have to be a 2-part mold. Just found instructions for making 2-parters on the internet. (Google is indeed my friend!)

ahhh

back in sculpture 101... oh so long ago - I made a mold of a root beer bottle and then duplicated it in plaster.

If I remember right... the mold was made of laytex which wouldnt work... but a two part plaster mold would work with clay... or even more plaster as long as you could find a release agent.

hmmm... my creative gears are a-turning. :D

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I knew you'd like this idea, Sara!

I almost titled the original post: "Sara, check this out!" LOL!

Poly Clay

Heh.

I should probably dig out my polymer clay. :)

If you make your mold from polymer clay, it has to be thick. Thin polymer clay will break if you flex it or press it.

Now, making discs out of precious metal clay--that would be cool. That would be *way* cool. Then your metallic color would never rub off. :)

shris

And stone!

I have some of the stone clay. That would be pretty neat!

When I think of clay,I

When I think of clay, I thinkof something that would break when dropped.

And with me, it would be dropped.

Is there some type of clay that won't break when it's dry?

(My craftiness is with crochet and counted cross-stitch, mostly.)

You all....

.... are funny! I think that, as a guy, my first thoughts would be to wonder how to turn these on a lathe! --out of wood! Or, if I had the skills and tools, out of metal. Now, _that_ would be cool! Forget the paints, etc... ;-)

-Jon

Do they have to be disks?

It seems to me that all that matters is the *rim*, and the only reason they use disks is to add strength.

If you bought a length of pipe with suitably thick walls, of a useful diameter, couldn't you just slice off pieces and smooth the edges? Might be easier.

Copper links would be pretty, but copper's too soft I think.

Yes, or you have rings

The middle of the disc is just as important as the edge. Without the middle of the disc, you're just ring-binding, which makes the entire setup very "floppy" laterally.

Member Judyofthewoods has a very low-budget setup that she made from plastic milk bottles and cardboard: she fastened the ends of the rings (strips, really) to the board to keep them from flopping around. See her blog.

True disc-binding works because the inner edges of the smurfs rest against the flat inner surface of the disc, and the stack of paper prevents the disc from wiggling around.

PMC

Hi.

Precious metal clay is 'clay' that, when cooked, becomes basically a solid block of the metal. So the silver clay is particles of silver, possibly made malleable in a base of some kind of wax or oil or gum or something. Then when you cook it (in a kiln, I think), the sticky bit boils off and the metal fuses to itself to make a solid piece. It's sold for sculptural and jewelry artists.

Polymer clay is a plastic-based material that you cook in the oven. When the piece isn't too thin or weak, it won't break when you drop it. You can make jewelry with it, too, or small sculptures. I made some jewelry and a miniature for my gaming. DH used it for some other purposes--prototyping different shapes to be cast in plastic later.

I wouldn't expect either of these two materials to break when made into a disc.

However, I would point out to all prospective artists that making a 'copy' of the existing discs is a copyright violation.

And yes, wood or metal discs turned on a lathe would be very cool too. I think aluminum would be spiffy, coated or treated so it wouldn't oxidize.

shris

Patent Violation?

Shris,
If anything I would think it would be a Patent violation. However, perhaps not if it's for personal use only. In any case, it would be very difficult to enforce at the non-commercial use level.
~Cath

Not copy, patent

Duh.

You're right, Cath. I wasn't thinking. It IS patent infringement, though I'm with you that non-commercial would be 1) difficult to detect (short of brag messages on the internet!) 2) worthless to them to chase down--not enough money involved.

shris

*sigh*

I'm sure turning discs on a lathe that are the exact same dimensions is just as bad as making a cast of a disc and creating more of them that way. The title of this forum topic is "Make your own..."; if I'm going to get in trouble for making my own Rolla-like discs for personal use, then there is far more to worry about than this one simple and harmless infraction. We probably break, in the strict technical sense, a dozen or more other copy/trade/patents every day without knowing it.

It's unlikely that they

It's unlikely that they would come after you for patent infringement for making your own, as long as you aren't selling them to others.

I wouldn't know at all how

I wouldn't know at all how to go about making my own discs, but boy, I sure do wish they were available in more/better colors. I'm going to end up doing most everything with black discs, I'm afraid, simply because the colored ones are too primary. I'd dearly love to see some solid colored discs in a much wider range of colors. Starting with a couple of shades of nice sage greens. ;-)

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