Circa/Rolla/Myndology brand perceptions

When I started the wresearch* on disc-binding systems that led me to this rather wonderful forum I developed a perception of the various brands that went roughly like this:

Levenger were obviously a venerable old brand like Filofax that had been peddling Circa organisers to retired colonels and vicars in New England since before the First World War. The original Bakelite discs probably changed hands on eBay for crazy prices. Rollabind had jumped in after the 1980s organiser boom with a cheaper version. And Myndology were the newest kids on the block, trying to make it all cool again.

It turns out I was 100% wrong on all of this: Levenger are licensees of Rollabind technology, patented in the 1990s, while Myndology uses Atoma, a Belgian system from the 1940s.

And yet when I look again at the products, my original perception still seems spot on. And I really, really want those Bakelite discs.

* Wresearch (n. vb.): research conducted entirely using the world wide web. Superficial, imprecise research. To carry out research without getting off one's big, fat behind.

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Makes sense to me

Hi Mick,

Being a mischievious Aussie I have to say that the real timeline makes perfect sense to me.

Belgium - invents an interesting idea in the 1940's but doesn't market it outside Europe
USA company - notices invention many years later and copies *oops* sorry I meant to say 'is inspired by' it
Upmarket USA company - redesigns it to make it appealing for the ultra-conservative business person by making it as boring as bat-poo
Belgium company's products reintroduced into US through artistic company

Sounds a bit like the motor car to me ;)
Europeans invent a car in 1890s
Henry Ford mass produces it
Years late another company turns it into an overly long gas guzzling executive car with 80's styling
European environmental cars arrive in US

tee hee ;-)

Bitter?

Hmmm, sounds like someone is bitter about missing out on market share.

Actually the description

Actually the description sounds perfectly fine to me.

To be honest

I have to add the Aussie approach to this

- Belgium invents a innovative binding system in the 1940's
- USA companies adapt it and market it in the US
- 2005 some Aussies hear about it on the net and consider buying it now that someone else has done the work
- near future, Chinese copy the system with cheap versions that appear in Aussie shops

And not long after that, a

And not long after that, a woman in Canada goes to a Chinese store in Montreal's Chinatown and buys up a storm.

"the Aussie approach" ?

Attack from "Down Under" ?

:)
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"near future, Chinese copy

"near future, Chinese copy the system with cheap versions that appear in Aussie shops"

Foldermate has some disc-bound folders. Ugly, cheap dics IMO. Foldermate is Japanses if I'm not mistaken.

Links, please

I have Google and I'm not afraid to use it

Foldermate.com brings up a page from Google that says "This web site may harm your computer"

What's with that ?
(Edit) Never mind. Google answered my question Here
The site is suspected of spreading malware.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Rollarchaeology

Found this in a dusty historical tome:

"The decision by the Northampton firm of Rolla-Bind's to introduce its first round of Bakelite binding discs in the 1920s proved to be a fortuitous decision, as it coincided with the rise of Great Britain's Labour movement. Suddenly, it became fashionable for miners and seamstresses to be seen organizing their daily schedules while riding the Underground to and from work. Template swaps quickly became an essential part of afternoon tea. Indeed, George Bernard Shaw proudly claimed to have written at least six plays in notebooks purchased from Rolla-Bind's Picadilly shop -- though Britain's inferior postwar paper tore easily when he switched to a bigger notebook and he was forced to throw the drafts away."

And from further down the page:

"Meanwhile, in Stuttgart, the firm Rolleverbinden Geselschaft -- which had made its fortune supplying binding rings to the famous "Fliegende Aktenschrank" (Flying Filing Cabinet) squadron in the Great War -- stubbornly continued using brass-coated iron for its rings, each ring meticulously crafted and calibrated by a team of up to eight master craftsmen."

-- From "Upward Bound: a Social History of Binding Systems" by Hugh Putting-Meon, 1934. A rare book indeed... :-D

Excellent Disc-cussion

:)
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Yes...

...quite spell-binding... It has a ring of truth.

-Jon

Rollawiki?

Rollafool,
This sort of information would be good to have in Rolla Wiki :)
Circa has started one here
Duc Ly

[lynk by ygor]

Rollahistory

Hi, Duc --

I think if I added my "historical" contributions to the wiki, the editors would take down the page or lock it or worse! :-D

Every sentence would end with "[citation needed]" !!

How about...

a generic "Disc Binding" page that can then link to all of these separate pages ?

Hocus-Link-Pocus ! ! !
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Wiki: Smurfing

Ygor,

I think I've been quoted. ;)

A page perforated for a disc-bound binding system contains a row of teeth along the side edge of the page that grip onto the outside raised perimeter of individual discs. Pages can be added or removed at any time by peeling the perforations away from each disc.

link to wiki:history lol

Thanks for contributing!

-Ryan