Got my second fountain pen...more problems.

I got my second fountain pen and it is giving more problems. It is a monteverde invincia, it stops and starts but monteverde promised to send me a new nib section, (we will see about that). I wonder if maybe i am not meant to have a fountain pen.

Anyway, what i am looking for is a good solid and nice and long guide on caring for, trouble shooting and the like. since it does not look like i am having the best of luck with this, i would to know what are some of the common and not so common problems.

thanks.

p.s. ygor, if you plan on posting "google is your friend" like you did here (node/4676, node/4367, node/2850, node/4532) and about 100 other places in this forum: dont bother, it's rude, annoys me and offers no help.

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Lamy!

Lamy Lamy Lamy Lamy Lamy. They never skip, and you can go weeks without writing with one and still have it work perfectly from the first stroke.

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Steff
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Concur with Lamy

I have a Lamy Safari in every notebook that has a pen loop. I swear by them for everyday use. They aren't inspiring to look at but write well every time, They are light and ergonomic in my hand. You can get the optional converter to use bottled ink. They are cheap as FPs go. Can't say enough about them. I use a fine nib on mine and I am left-handed if that makes a difference in the recommendation.

Best of luck. I never write with ballpoints...life is too short!

sporter
"To fly, we must have resistance."

Hi Jigglypuff, Sorry you're

Hi Jigglypuff,

Sorry you're having issues with your fountain pens. I will not answer your questions, but give a piece of advice instead. (Humans like to give advice - can't help it.) (And: I don't know of any such guide anyway.)

As a fountain pen lover for nearly 20 years now, and someone who's spent more than $100 only once for a pen, I recommend that you stick to very well established brands, and stick with simple pens to begin with. I mean Pelikan, Waterman, Sheaffer, Parker in particular. I have found that Pelikan pens work best for me. The Sheaffer entry-level school fountain pen is one of the best writers I've ever had. I have not been as successful with Waterman (except for the Phileas and some of the Kulturs) and Parker but I know many others are.

Pelikanos will never disappoint you, nor will the Pelikan Future. They might not look exciting but boy! do they write. And they sell for under $20.

Then later you can explore some of the smaller manufacturers.

I also find that the classic Hero pens (which are replicas of the Parker 21 and 51) like the Hero 329 (old version - available from isellpens and a few others online...) are excellent. (And they cost less than $10.) Hero's fancier pens don't work so well in my experience.

Nothing against smaller brands, or fancy pens, but they can be finicky.

ignorance is its own punishment.

I thought, wrongly, that monteverde was one of the main established brands. when i did a youtube search Monteverde came up again and again that it's a nice pen. Indeed, it still comes up again and again, but due to my own ignorance i thought it was something that it is not.

that said cross and waterman are on my hate list. I had a cross (ballpoint) pen that no lie, fell into 3 pieces the first time I opened the box when i got home. I tried to return it but could not, the seller said i did it. *scoff* i tried some watermans (rollerballs) at friends homes and found the workmanship a joke.

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

Have you tried

Lamy? They are so reliable and a delight to use. Or the Vanishing Point fountain pen? I have two which I use daily and which I love.
Kate

Yes!

The only pens I use every day are two Lamys -- a Studio and a Vista -- and a Pilot VP. You have excellent taste in pens. :)

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Steff
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I'm also a VP lover. I have

I'm also a VP lover. I have a yellow Safari, which is quite pretty, but too big for me.

ugliness

ok i will admit i had heard great things about the basic Lamy from many places but i didnt get it because i thought it was ugly.

it felt nice and wrote nice but it was that ugly plastic and binder clip thing that turned me off. :(

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

Don't worry

p.s. ygor, if you plan on posting "google is your friend" like you did here (node/4676, node/4367, node/2850, node/4532) and about 100 other places in this forum: dont bother, it's rude, annoys me and offers no help.

I won't.
Good luck.
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thanks!

thanx!!

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

I had a vanishing point and

I had a vanishing point and it was OK, but it felt scratchy when I wrote. I now have two Waterman Philies pens. very reasonably priced. I love the snap shut caps because i tend to over tighten. These work great with cartridge or converter. They really work well for me so don't give up on waterman because of an experience you had with a rollerball.

Jiggly,

Jiggly,

Sorry to hear about your fountain pen woes. DON'T give up yet!

Monteverdes are not the best fountain pen, but all is not lost. I collected a lot of cheaper fountain pens back in the day and now use an Omas with a custom italic nib on a daily basis and would never go back to ordinary pens.

Have you tried different inks? Try some Skrip or Noodlers or Private Reserve. You can find 'em at pendemoniumdotcom. I remember having a Parker pen that never would work until I changed ink brands.

The recommendation to try a Lamy Safari is a good one, they seem to always work.

Waterman Phileas is a good inexpensive pen, the Waterman Expert is a very nice pen.

A good used Parker 21 from Fountainpennetworkdotcom or pentracedotcom is a great starter pen as well. A Parker 51 if you have more cash.

You can learn a lot at the two forums above as well as at two of the premier pen sellers/nib meisters, richardspensdotcom or nibsdotcom.

No affiliation with anyone above, just don't want to see a fountain pen user lose faith early on.

Let me know if you need further help.

custom nib??

WOW!! that sounds awesome. where does one get one, how much would it cost? my prefect nib would be fine with a heavy ink flow so that it leaves thin but bold lines and words, and would be faintly italic. This think would help my hand writing look better than it is :).

i will get and try new inks in the next few days.

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

Sorry, i forgot, Levenger

Sorry, i forgot, Levenger used to have a guide to pen care on thier website

Fountain Pen Problems

You may have oil in the feed (from when it was made, not put there by you). Try putting the nib and feed in a mild soap water like ivory liquid dish soap. Mix several drops of ivory (like 10 or more) in a shot glass of warm water (not boiling). Swish the nib and feed around in this awhile and then blot dry. No need to rinse the soap out. It will clear the oils from the feed and should improve flow. As for a low cost steady writer... go with a Parker 51 Areo filler. Writes every time! For a good site with pen care tips, try David's at vintagepens dot com.

Good luck.... Carla (aka Pens101)

i will try this too.

i will try this too.

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

You can also clean out your

You can also clean out your pen with about TEN DROPS of ordinary household ammonia diluted in an 8 ounce glass of water. Just draw it up into the pen and let it out several times. Then flush with clean water several times. DON'T get the lemon scented, etc. ammonia, just the clear ordinary kind. I got my bottle at the dollar store.

No offense, but the MonteVerde and Retro 51 are not very good fountain pens. You might be better off to pick up a Lamy or Waterman Phileas and sell off your pens on fountainpennetwork or ebay and start over?

If you are interested in an italic nib, I'd start with a Lamy or Phileas cursive italic from pendemonium.

My Omas has a John Mottishaw custom ground nib, but even used I paid about $250 for the pen. I've traded enough pens I figure it really didn't cost me anything, but I also look at it as less than a cup of coffee for the first year and then it is fully depreciated. I write several hours every day and plan to have the pen for ten to twenty years, so consider it money well spent on something that brings me immense pleasure each and every time I use it. Look at richardspens and nibsdotcom for more info about custom nibs.

no returns??

after reading more here about this pen and others by that maker, i tried to return to the store to return it, i was told that the dont take returns on used pens, though the guy saw that it DOES have problems. i was told to take it up with the maker, anything else i can do?

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.

Would be sorted in the UK

Shame you don't live in the UK, here the store would have to take the defective pen back (and they then have to deal with the manufacturer). We have a nice thing called the Sales of Goods Act and items sold have to be of "mercantable quality".

What sort of a store is

What sort of a store is that??

They don't deserve your business...

A good store that wants long term customers would not do that to you. I hope there's someplace else you can go for pens.

I've had good luck with Waterman Phileas, Pelikans, old Sheaffer school pens and No-Nonsense pens, and Lamy Al-Star and Safari. I highly recommend vintage Parker 51 aerometric pens, which you can find as user grade pens in good condition for $40 - 60 on www.pentrace.net/PenMarket.htm, Fountain Pen Network, or various Internet pensellers. A Parker 45 is also popular and even less expensive.

I also found some new old stock (NOS) Cross Solo fountain pens on clearance at a Franklin-Covey store that were outstanding and reliable. Sorry, not selling those. :-) I also bought a Parker Frontier FP from www.pendemonium.com which had a stub-like feel to it and worked very well.

There are good, inexpensive pens out there. Don't give up!

Walter

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"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." Albert Einstein and Buckaroo Banzai!

store credit

they gave me store credit and i got a waterman hemisphere (which i am happy with). but i will not return to them for any of my pen buying needs in the future that is for sure.

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Levenger stole ALL of my money, but they left me all these nice, shiny organizational tools.