O! M! G! -- iPad !!

Is anyone else "watching" the live blog-feeds from the Apple event ?

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Yep

But only because I'm home watching a "sick" kid (who is playing on the wii).

I have to admit I wanted more of a laptop replacement. However, when my iPod Touch breaks I might want to graduate to the iPad. My biggest disappointment is that it doesn't have some kind of pen or stylus. I'd love to be able upload pdfs and hand write notes on them. I can do that on my Sony eReader Touch Screen (ie Sony must come up with a cute name for their ereaders), but, although I can view the notes on my computer within the ereader application, the notes will not translate to a pdf or print out. Sigh.

Of course, someone might write an app for handwriting. Or, I could just stick with paper and pens/pencils...

Pricing is excellent

$500 base model. And you do not have to have 3G and it's accompanying data service cost if you do not want it.

Well, I am going to start saving my spare pennies for this. I will not buy in the first wave. Let them knock the initial bugs out of it first.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Price is good

Can't wait for your review. I love my touch and have read several books on before (and even after) I got my Sony eReader. Battery life won't be what an e-ink display has though.

It's about the upcoming accessories for me

I watched the keynote for as long as I could before the beginning of my class. In truth, this thing is what I was looking for. In the ideal, I would not be bringing a laptop to uni for my classes, since I don't write much when I'm going and coming back from uni. I read and mark. I need some access to the internet, my email and calendar to make appointments. So this things is really close to it. It has iWork. So what will make or break this for me is the connectics. What kind of cable accessories will be made for it. If I can get a cable of a bluetooth type dongle that can connect it to a VGA cable so I can project my class presentations from it? Then I'll be buying it. It's that simple. I can have a full computer in my office at home and this thing to bring to uni on those two days I go teach, meet students and do meetings.

Now, if only it had not been named for a joke feminine product from MadTV, I'd be even happier.

Nothing new to me

It looks very like the digital pad my husband bought from Hong Kong over six months ago. Except that his digital pad has a stylus and isn't a Mac.

And it was less than $US 500

i am quite jealous of of the

i am quite jealous of of the over seas tech goodies - seems like the hello kitty version of everything over there can kick the hiney of our high line "adult focused" stuff ... ^^

--> my blog <--

Details, please

manufacturer ?
model number ?
specs ?
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Hong Kong iPad

It's actually smaller than the iPad but it does do lots of similar things.

It's called a Smart Q V7 7" Tablet PC. The basic models sell on eBay for around $US300.

Interesting, but ...

I think I will wait for the iPad.
I found the manufacturer specs here and I found it for sale for US$250 here.

I feel that the iPad will be worth the money (specs)
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

No camera?

No camera, no Skype? I know iPhone users that are not impressed at all. A few who are quite disappointed even. I'll wait for the second generation perhaps.

The Feds don't like it

There was an article out this morning about it. From the Federal Government point of view, the security is weak, with no option to 'push' a disable if you lose one. No local networking function. Also, there's no Outlook capability.

Color them unimpressed.

Link, please

no excuses. you are a "notaspammer"
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

WTOP Federal News Radio

Don't know how long this link will be good for, but:

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=15&sid=1875305

The relevant bit:

"Federal IT managers will need to think twice before deploying Apple's new iPad tablet. The iPad has potential business uses, but it lacks security and manageability features for safe enterprise use. Computerworld reports, if the device gets stolen, there is no way to deploy a push policy that locks it. It also lacks support for virtual private networks, and for Microsoft Outlook e-mail."

Good atricle

They make many valid points.

My response: Personally, I would not use an iPad for work, but I can see certain job types that would find it attractive. The problems listed are correctable. The question remains as to whether the demand will push the product in a direction to be worth making those changes.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Some are assumptions that may not bear out...

I read the original article. They admit that some of the security issues are handled with the current iPhone software, but make the assumption that this wouldn't be the case with the iPad. It's probably more likely that those features in the iPhone OS for the iPad would continue to have those features, so I think their assumption is suspect. It's fear mongering. At any rate, we won't know until we see the shipping product. :-)

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9149866/Apple_s_iPad_...

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"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." - Mark Twain

Not sure that's true...

The iPad uses iPhone OS v3.2 and future versions of iPhone OS, presumably. If it has the same features of the iPhone in terms of security, it is compatible with Exchange, can be remote wiped by an administrator, and has support for VPN. It can also wipe itself if someone enters the wrong password ten times. I work for the Feds, and what our IT managers like is having whole device encryption. The iPhone doesn't have that. But, I think the iPad will have all the things you mentioned.

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"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." - Mark Twain

Example of remote wipe

This process works on an iPhone/iPod Touch, and it's likely that it would work on an iPad as well.

http://theappleblog.com/2010/02/04/how-to-remotely-wipe-an-i...

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"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." - Mark Twain

not impressed

Since it doesn't do all that much more than my touch, just with a bigger screen that won't fit in my pocket. No multiple apps open at the same time, no camera, no full blown installations of software, no reason for me to lust after it.

King Apple can remove your apps

King Apple literally disabled one of my iPod Touch apps recently for a very weak reason. That gives me the creeps about buying this device. Especially at that price.

Link/app name, please?

Link/app name, please? So far, I've yet to see them *disable* an app, though they have removed quite a few after initially approving them (meaning no further sales).

I can still install the Google Voice app I bought long before it was removed from the store, for instance.

And what was the reason ?

Inquiring minds want to know ! :)
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Pocket Informant

The developer of Pocket Informant (calendar app for multiple PDA formats) made a programming error, admitted and announced it and immediately issued the fix to Apple. Apple posted the fixed app four days later. The app would not open until the fix was issued. Users were 'calendar-less'. A case for paper? For backup? Probably one or both. PI syncs with Google Calendar so no one was truly in the dark but it illustrates that Apple is king over what sits on your iPhone, iPod, iPad.

Brand exclusivity is not my favorite

If Apple is going to behave like Amazon, they won't get anymore of my business.

I don't buy things to be locked out of use by corporate entities that make the devices after I give them my hard earned money.

Once I buy something it is mine to use the way I want.
Including sharing music and e-books between my devices without being forced to buy the same title twice.

Grammarian flew out of me

It is "any more" of my business. "Anymore" means a future act. I may be wrong but that is what I remember.

sporter
"To fly, we must have resistance."

Clarification

Have learned a bit more so I should correct myself. The programming error caused a trial version end date to apply to all users. That actually disabled the app. But Apple's 4 day casual wait on the immediately issued fixed version was the big problem.

Thinking of my old Palm

I get the thought, that everything the old Palm Tungsten I still use today is now implemented in the Ipad - just a bit bigger really. I don't use the calendar as im a Paper person, but reading books and the occasional game works fine on the old device. I think it's just too pricey for the casual user and it has too many built in disabilities not to mention the "crippleware" of Apple. Not allowing the user to "own" what he has on his IPAD is just as Amazonis crippling its Kindles.

I think its time to wait for the next Generation of Manufacturers. Thanks to Apple for starting the Hype, and now lets bring on the new gadgets which actually do what we techies like.

just my 2cebts...

tret

I got mine !

I am typing this from it.
Schweeeeeeeet !!

When I find any GTD-ish apps, I will let y'all know.

Or I might try writing my own. :)

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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

TaskPaper and Things

ygor,
I don't have an iPad yet, just a little iPod Touch. I've been really liking TaskPaper - nice, simple, you can pretty much tweak it to do just about anything as long as it can be done with plain text. The developer has a blog & they have screenshots up of what the iPad version will look like. It does syncing via a web service, not directly over Wifi, which is my only gripe with TaskPaper on the iPod Touch.

I've also heard really good stuff about Things and they do have an iPad version. I've tried the desktop version and found it was overkill for what I needed and I was WAY too tempted to spend large amounts of time fiddling.

-Kenny

Sideview: Never pass it to wrong hands....

Currently this video gives fun:

iPad in use

Enjoy!

Have you seen Microsoft Courier?

Hi.

I have to say, the Microsoft Courier (currently vaporware but targeted for end of year) seems a lot more in line with what folks here talk about doing than the ipad. Specifically, the 'journaling' and the ability to incorporate clips from the web and photos into said journals, commonplace books, etc.

I also like the smaller, more portable form factor and the fact that it looks like a book that closes. I do like the larger form factor of the ipad for reading web pages and books, but the courier's design features (color painter, sticky notes, etc.) seem to have a lot more of the useful stuff in there OOB (instead of in the app store).

It remains to be seen whether it actually comes out as cool as it looks right now, of course, but now I have a reason not to buy the ipad right off the bat. :)

shris

We shall see...

Apple was very specific about the target audience for the iPad. Microsoft does not IMO do their homework as thoroughly.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Vaporware is the right name for it.

Microsoft is waiting for the iPad to be on sale, it
will also buy some of the other tablets and do reverse engineering

Depending on how the iPad sells, their own version will come with
the boring look, same bugs and the best browser in the universe
stupid explorer.

I hope to be able to find a generic virtual notepad device I can load with Linux apps.
Free, always evolving, cool and much important,they work.

I want to be able to configure my stuff the way I want, and buy media from any vendor I choose, or a non-profit website for free books or share pdf documents or notes with others

Courier

As you can probably guess from my user name, I'm all over the Courier! The iPad just doesn't interest me - sure, it's a great device for media, but I want a notebook and that it isn't.

I started out with a home-made 3-ring organiser over 30 years ago, cutting sheets of paper to size. That led to a 'designer' hard ABS organiser at university, and then on to a Filofax in the 80s.

When Palm came out with their first device, my Filofax was retired and I've used digital ever since. I've been through any number of handhelds, smartphones, laptops, and now have an HDC TouchPro and Thinkpad laptop. I considered a LiveScribe for a while, but it's too bulky and a ballpoint pen which I refuse to use.

I've come to the realisation that I've completely moved away from the original idea of making notes on a portable media and now generally wait until I'm at my desktop or laptop. Seeing the Courier at Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/05/microsofts-courier-digita...) made me drool, realising it's what I've been searching for since my first foray into digital note taking.

The Courier was actually my reason for registering at this site. Moving from a US Letter sized notepad to the Courier will be a 2 stage process for me. I bought an on sale DayRunner for $14, threw away the contents, and printed my own from templates found here. Paper sliced for me at OfficeMax, again from a tip found here. As I get used to writing my notes again instead of typing them, I'm getting accustomed to the smaller form factor of the DayRunner, as well as attempting to improve my handwriting - when I get my Courier I'll be set with digital storage and OCR.

Now all I have to hope for is that it's not vapourwear and Microsoft do actually make one. And don't ask me what my price point is ... trying not to think about that.

Nice, but...

please do not track dirt across my iPad thread here. If you want to talk about another device, start another thread, please.
I will say that the presentations on your link looked impressive, but they appear to only be animated graphics.
Seems to me to be very vapourware-ish.
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

Maybe not that far away

The Smart Q V7 7" Tablet PC I mentioned above accepts doc files created from freeware designed for Palms. Good for reading fanfiction as ebooks. I don't know if it would accept any Linux software.

I suggest keeping an eye on Asus. They've done some interesting things with Linux and small computers. And there was some mention of an Asus smart pad coming out sometime soon.

As to an earlier comment re iPad being like a Tungsten Palm on steroids. It does sound like it. I still use my Tungsten T3 daily for writing, reading ebooks and small games. I wouldn't mind a bigger screen for it but not something as big as the iPad.

A new news bit

Link
At the risk of sounding like I am gloating, which I try to avoid, it looks like Microsoft Courier is even less than vaporware. it just ain't!
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"I think the surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." (Calvin and Hobbes/Bill Waterson)

The iPad is the only contender.

I watched the keynote speech this week. Judging by the line that formed at the Apple stores, the day the iPad went on sale, it is no hype, it works.

Let us know about any GTD or other organizing apps that could be used nicely with a dual paper/digital system.

And is there any way to print directly from iPad to printer?

Saw that

Hi.

Yah, I saw that rumor too. That's OK by me, though it is slightly disappointing. After playing with the iPad at BestBuy I decided it was a very very expensive pda, and a little too big to be as portable as I wanted it to be.

I *really* like the big monitor on my desk, the full size keyboard, etc. There's just really no web experience as good as a full size monitor. I'm not even as happy with my laptop screen, because it's smaller.

And as far as PDA functions go, well, I just got rid of my old palm. No replacement necessary. My life just ain't that complicated at this point. :)

Now, when the iPad rolls up with one of those spiffy little bitty thin flexible membrane type monitors AND it's touch sensitive, well...maybe. I dunno. We'll see. Give me something letter size or tabloid size that folds up into a little pouch...I would consider it. Maybe. If it's less expensive than an actual desktop/monitor combo.

shris

So, yeah, I'm getting one

Since next year I will still be working at the same uni where I am currently employed, because I did not get the other shiny position, I will be getting an iPad. That way, I'll have my course docs and my keynote presentations with me, without lugging my laptop on a 2h-train ride both ways, said laptop which contains my life and my career and risking the latter every time.

I do not know yet if I'll get the wifi or 3g versions, because the rates have not yet been announced up here.