Rollabind durability?

Do you find that your Rollabinds hold up to regular use? I am planning on getting one of the new Arc notebooks for use for a reference-type purpose, but Im not sure the paper will hold up to frequent use. I pulled out an old Staples Rolla notebook I have had lying around, opened it up, and wow, the little tabs are starting to get bent up and such already--going to be falling off the rings soon. mind you, I've hardly used this notebook--I doubt I've opened it 20 or 30 times.

So now, of course, I'm doubtful that the paper's going to hold up to the frequent flipping-through that this book I'm making will require. But the Arc notebook is the only option I can think of that would work for me as I want to be able to move pages around/add easily, etc. (a ring binder is not an option...too clunky [a binder always has more width than you need], too big [I want the junior size Arc, not the full-size]...and inelegant to boot).

(I know I can get page reinforcements from the Rollabind site, but yow they're expensive--I'd been needing a LOT of them, I think--and I can't see me sitting there trying to line up all the little notches on the strips with the notches on the paper. I'd probably kill myself after about three, or the first time I messed it up and didn't get it lined up right. If I had one of the punches I'd just reinforce the edges with strips of Scotch tape and re-punch, but the punches are bloody expensive too)

Is my old book just a fluke and I can think perhaps I've mistreated it somewhere along the way and not realized it (though heaven knows I'd like my new one to hold up to rattling around in bags and such if need be)...do you find your Rollas hold up to frequent use?

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Better paper

Hi.

The lighter the paper, the easier the tabs bend up. I have a small notebook made from 3x5 cards that has held up for literally years of regular use with no trouble whatsoever. This includes being tossed into my purse with other things as well as the regular flipping.

There's a sweet spot in a notebook where more pages will cause problems, and fewer pages will get beat up or fall off quicker. You need to fill it up good or swap out for smaller discs. If the discs can wobble more than a little, you will have trouble--they need to be held in fairly firmly by the cover and papers, but with a small amount of wiggle room.

Moving pages around definitely weakens the tabs. Flipping not so much, but removing/replacing yes. The more you move them, the tougher they need to be to hold up. Stuff that's constantly moving around needs the reinforcements or to be made of plastic (a la page finder).

You know you can get loose notebook rings to avoid the whole binder bulk thing. I do that for my 43 folders--I use sheet protectors and some heavy pressboard covers with three small rings. Of course, mine isn't for moving and replacing pages, but it is possible to do with loose rings. My covers are black and the small rings are chrome, so it looks reasonably sharp without the bulk of a 3-ring binder. If you have a hole-punch that has adjustable hole positions then you can set it up to do junior punching.

Anyway, I prefer heavier paper for my books. I use 28 or 32 lb paper for mine. For me, though, the repositioning isn't the thing I use the most. For me it's the completely flexible page size and paper quantity. That said, my use of Rolla has waned over the years, mostly because I don't make that many books anymore.

shris

I don't want the loose-leaf

I don't want the loose-leaf rings because it makes the whole thing too floppy...this DOES need to be sort of book-like. I also don't want to be trying to punch holes in pages that standard paper punches don't fit....been there and done that with small binders, and ugh it's a pain.

Second taht paper weight === durability

I use heavier papers for anything I want to last a while.
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I haven't found the durability to be great

I bought a bunch of Circa stuff (same as Rollabind) clearanced last year on ebay to journal with and found pages often popped out and got bent and wore out around the discs when kept in my purse. I have since stopped journaling with it but plan on using it for my planner next year. I think the system is great for certain things, but personally don't like it for anything I want to survive my lifetime.

For something that will survive, you may want to consider...

...something like this
(don't worry. Safe for work)
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Ha ha Dan, that is

Ha ha Dan, that is hilarous!! It could pose a problem if dropped, lol.

I use to collect vintage journals off of ebay (they are so interesting to read). Paper can last a very, very long time. I just find the Rollabind/Circa disc system puts stress on paper in a way that a bound book doesn't. That being said I still love Rollabind/Circa for somethings and am lusting over the newest version of the punch. I am planning a home/meal organizer that I want to use next year.

Hijacking a bit -- (should I

Hijacking a bit -- (should I post elsewhere?) I'd love to hear your thoughts on the home meal organizer! I've been tossing around plans for a while but haven't settled on a format. I need a master list with ideas, a spot to plan for the week, a spot for recipes, etc.

What works for people? What did you think was a good idea but didn't work in practice?

Thanks so much.

Another thread would be best

But you might look here: http://diyplanner.com/node/6750
and here: http://diyplanner.com/node/6222
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